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Torco RC Fuel 30% Nitro Heli Gallon

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blhollo210-22-2009 08:10 AM

Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

Hey all, So i got a good deal on some cool power 30% nitro fuel for the airplane, yep! it was an Impulse buy 4 gallons for $20.00..now i gotta figure out a way to dilute it to 15% or even 20% if possible i normally use 15% cool power in my engines..any suggestions?


Jetdesign10-22-2009 08:19 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

You can buy fuel with 0% nitro, commonly called FAI fuel, and mix it to get 15%, or you can buy 10% fuel and mix it for 20%. Whenever I mix fuels I try to use the same stuff - same manufacturer, same type of oil, etc. I don't know how much that matters but it can't hurt. In a pinch I will buy a gallon of 30% from the heli guys and a gallon of 10% from the other guys and mix for my YS 20/20.

Double check your oil content.

You can also sell the 30% for a good profit since you got it so cheap and buy 15%.


blhollo210-22-2009 08:27 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

so if i mix the 0% nitro with 30% nitro fuel, i will end up ith 15% nitro? and so if im looking t make a gallon just mix half a gallon?


j.duncker10-22-2009 08:38 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 


so if i mix the 0% nitro with 30% nitro fuel, i will end up ith 15% nitro? and so if im looking t make a gallon just mix half a gallon?

YES but I would make sure the oil was the same type. Most times oils mix OK BUT you can get unlucky.

Jetdesign10-22-2009 10:18 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

Mix one gallon each of 0% and 30%, to get two gallons of 15%.

Double check the oil content.


ORIGINAL: blhollo2

so if i mix the 0% nitro with 30% nitro fuel, i will end up ith 15% nitro? and so if im looking t make a gallon just mix half a gallon?


blhollo210-22-2009 12:36 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

awesome thanks!


CGRetired10-22-2009 05:31 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

There is a thread here on RCU that comletely discusses mixing fuels to get the right nitro mixture with the right oil mixture. Don't just jump in and do this. Make sure you are using the right combinations. The main issue is making sure that, no matter what nitro percentage you get, be it 13% or 17%, that you get the right amount of oil in the blend.

CGr.



cappaj110-23-2009 01:15 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 



ORIGINAL: blhollo2

Hey all, So i got a good deal on some cool power 30% nitro fuel for the airplane, yep! it was an Impulse buy 4 gallons for $20.00..now i gotta figure out a way to dilute it to 15% or even 20% if possible i normally use 15% cool power in my engines..any suggestions?

That's $20 EACH gallon, correct?

Gray Beard10-23-2009 05:26 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

True FAI fuel is straight Castor oil but here in the states I have found the oil blended in some FAI. Make sure what type of oil you are mixing. The nitro % is easy, it's the oil you want to know about. I have mixed and blended a lot of fuel but it was all from the same manfucature.


blhollo210-23-2009 08:56 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 


That's $20 EACH gallon, correct?

no its $5.00 a gallon, 4 jugs of coolpower 30%

blhollo210-23-2009 08:58 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

So what type of oil is typicaly blended in cool power? and what could i be looking for?


Jetdesign10-23-2009 11:23 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

I personally would buy more gallons of Cool Power and mix them. Cool power typically has synthetic oil, though it's made by Morgan fuels and there are other blends available. Grab the lowest nitro percent you can get, whether it's 0%, 5%, or 10% and you will have a blend between 15% and 20%. which will work just fine for you.

Look on the fuel you bought for an oil content, probably in the 16% to 18% range. This is the most critical number, and you want to make sure the fuel you buy to mix has as much or more oil than what you already have. No harm in adding a little extra oil, there IS harm in lowering the oil content to an unsafe level, which should be specified in your engine manual.

18% oil is a good general oil content. You can use 16% but it would result in increased power and a shorter life expectancy of your engine. Some engines like YS like 20% oil. Some fuels come with 17% claiming they have 'advanced' oil for lubrication and thus can afford 1% more methanol for more power.


proptop10-24-2009 08:50 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

5 bucks a gallon for 30% nitro Cool Power is incredably cheap...
Just out of curiosity...how old is it?


Augie1110-24-2009 11:47 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.


blhollo210-24-2009 12:38 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

no, actually i got this fuel in the orginal shipping box, the gallons were sealed and made in 2008, i bought it from a guy who i previously bought two r/c airplanes from, its good stuff just too much nitro


proptop10-24-2009 03:04 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

Great deal then![8D]



blhollo210-24-2009 03:52 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

awesome chart!! so im fine to mix the two of them!!


blhollo210-26-2009 03:16 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

ok my next question, what do you get when you mix 0% fuel with 20% fuel???


Jetdesign10-26-2009 04:51 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 



ORIGINAL: blhollo2

ok my next question, what do you get when you mix 0% fuel with 20% fuel???

If you mix both gallons equally, like in one container or by measuring out equal parts, you get the average of each of the contents:

(20+0)/2=10% nitro

If one was 18% oil content and one was 16% oil content:

(18+16)/2= 17% oil

etc.


blhollo210-27-2009 02:24 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

ok well i have 20% fuel and 0 % fuel, i need to get to 15% do i mix half of each then?


HighPlains10-27-2009 08:12 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

3 parts 20%, 1 part 0% results in 15%.


blhollo210-28-2009 08:35 AM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

so make 75% of the nitro fuel 20% mixed with 25% of the 0% fuel? how should i split the portions?


rambler5310-29-2009 08:24 PM

RE: Can you Dilute 30%nitro down to 15%?
 

I would mix it in a 8 ounce tank before diving into a whole gallon. I dilluted 65% nitro with FAI. The 65% nitro was boat fuel, it was on clearance for $17 a gallon.




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Homemade rc fuel from the hardware store/drug store 0% nitro 90/10mix

30% nitro fuel

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My reasoning for stepping down on the coolness of the plug is that the higher nitro percentage burns easier and the higher nitro content is harder to tune, colder plugs help widen the tuning window. What is posted above is good info. Weather does affect plugs but I cant really tell you where to start. You will just have to buy a few different temp plugs and try them back to back. Cooler plugs are thicker so they are a little more durable.

Since I have steped up to 30%, I will never go back! The power and response is just sick, even when adding a shim to the head. I havent really had any failures caused by the lower oil content. As long as you keep the tune on spot. The higher % nitro will narrow the tuning window so you will have to learn to pay closer attention to how the engine is running.

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To be able to adjust the carburetor of a nitro engine correctly, you need patience and must try and understand how this works. Sometimes nitro engines are difficult to set, and if you have difficulties, then we suggest you ask your LHS (Local Hobby Shop) or Dealer where you have purchased the engine to help you in this matter. If however you prefer to try yourself, here is how:

Attention: Work only on 1 carburetor adjustment at a time and make only small adjustments, maximum 1/8 of a turn! Pre adjustments.


Once the engine is started let it reach operating temperature, then proceed as follows:
Set the main needle by holding the car off the ground, then open throttle completely. The engine should not completely clean out and should stabilize at 80% of top RPM, but if the engine cleans out completely and the rpm continues to climb too high, close the throttle immediately and open the main needle and repeat the sequence, until the engine does not clean out completely and the rpm stabilizes at 80%. If the engine runs too rich (4-stroking aIl the way), lean the main needle until the engine just starts to clean out.
Set the idle rpm of the engine by holding the car off the ground, then open throttle till the engine rpm reaches the above rpm, and then close the throttle. If the engine stalls, then you need to increase the idle by turning the idle air screw clockwise until the engine does not stall anymore. However, when the idle of the engine remains too high, then you need to lower the idle rpm by turning the idle air screw counter clockwise.
Set the idle needle by holding the car off the ground, open the throttle until the engine reaches the 80% rpm, and then close the throttle. If the engine idles for 2-5 seconds and the idle rpm decreases, then the idle needle is set too rich, so lean this setting by turning the idle needle clockwise. Repeat this process until the engine has a constant rpm for at least 20-30 seconds after the throttle has been closed. If the engine idles for 2-5 seconds and then the idle rpm increases, the engine is running too Iean at the idle needle, so richen the idle needle by turning it counter clockwise to remedy this.
Set the idle rpm by using the idle air screw, and try to find a low but reliable idle rpm. A too high idle rpm makes it more difficult to slow the car during breaking.
Attention: When adjusting the idle needle, this then can effect the idle rpm, use the idle air screw to adjust the low rpm when it becomes too high or too low.


Once you are satisfied with your carburetor settings you are ready to put the car on the track and make the final adjustments.
· Final adjustments while driving.
When ready with the pre adjustments you are now ready to put the car on the track and start your final adjustments. If you have set your idle needle and idle rpm correctly in the pre adjustment phase then you only need to adjust the main needle to find the correct setting and performances of your engine.
Start leaning the main needle by small increments (1/8 of a turn maximum) and run the car again, repeating this sequence until the engine completely cleans out, accelerates well and reaches maximum speed.
To prevent your engine from running too hot, it is advised then to richen the main needle (1/8 of a turn counter-clockwise), since running the engine too lean on the main needle will cause the engine to overheat, resulting in excessive engine wear and possible breakage.
A possible way to check the engine temperature is to apply a few drops of water on the cylinder head. The drops should evaporate only after 3-5 seconds, If they evaporate immediately the engine is too hot, so richen the main needle (1/4 of a turn counter-clockwise) immediately.
Check your engine temperature regularly. Another way of knowing if your engine is running too lean, is when you are driving and the engine starts too loose its power at the low rpm range and no smoke is coming from the exhaust; if this happens, richen the main-needle if you do not want to damage the engine.
Once properly adjusted, the engine should produce a strong, high-pitched sound at maximum speed, and a thin trail of smoke should be visible from the exhaust tailpipe.

NOTE: The carburetor settings may change with changes in weather conditions, fuel, glow plug or exhaust system. After changing any of these, always richen the main needle ¼ to ½ of a turn and then re-adjust the main needle again on the track.
NOTE: When the engine stops, the heat of the engine will go into the carburetor and alter the idle rpm. This can translate into a bad idle rpm, especially when you have your idle rpm a little low. This will come back to normal when you have made at least 1 lap on the track again so the carburetor has reached its normal working temperature.

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